Many of you have written publicly and privately to the round of blog questions that I’ve recently asked. Your answers were informative and “common” to all. If you remember what you wrote, you’ll probably quickly understand what I mean.
Here’s what I learned in a summary format:
a) Everyone is basically working alone. Not a single family reported in that they were all on the same page with their thoughts, plans and efforts towards preparing for collapse. Most reported divisions in their efforts to inform spouses, family, kids, friends and neighbors, with what I judge as “mediocre” success at best.
This is as I personally suspected, because I have found out the same things. It’s nearly impossible to find someone even in your own household who embraces this information as seriously as you do.
This is creating a lot of tension, disagreement and hardship in these relationships. Most of you are limping along, doing the best you can while this “ball and chain” keeps holding you back. I mean no disrespect here, but a divided house cannot stand very long. Nor am I suggesting you do anything differently about it, I’m only pointing out that this is true for everyone.
b) The feeling of being alone, disconnected from the “other world” that people are living in and failure to communicate effectively are also being experienced by all of the respondents. This too is as suspected, meaning I find myself at odds with the other world everywhere I go.
We are all noticing the disconnect from this reality we perceive and the so-called reality perceived by everyone else. Being in a decidedly tiny minority, this excaberates our feelings of being alone. We’re not connecting with other people in meaningful ways (which means meaningful to us). It’s really a Twilight Zone “out there” as the disconnects to what is really happening just keeps right on going over everyone’s head.
Any news or information we share is usually looked at, but it doesn’t sink in or change anything at all. Life goes on as “normal” and our frustration and disbelief grows a bit worse. Some of us, myself included, are more or less throwing our hands up in the air and we’re basically saying “I give up trying to convince these dunderheads to save themselves“. We feel the time has come to save our own selves.
As already shared, this is even happening on the family / friend levels and is causing some tension. I’m receiving an increase in request to “secretly” handle shipments and orders from spouses, neighbors and friends. The level of trust is actually dropping as the level of our concern increases.
c) Despite any evidence we may be bringing to the table in our discussions with family and friends, deep entrenched denial rules the day. Nothing more needs to be said here.
d) Nobody has enough money to do what they believe needs to be done on a personal level. A tight balancing act is being waged trying to keep one foot in and one foot out of the system. It’s hard, tiring — actually downright exhausting, and wearing everyone down.
e) Age is a big concern. The age group of those who are aware, awake and prepping is the older generations, averaging between 40 – 60 (not everyone commented on this, but this is the clear trend).
f) The need to interact with others of like mind and concern is acute for most. The need is both real and perceived. Mitigating the feelings of aloneness, being crazy or just going out of your mind because nobody else “get’s it” is a driving factor for this. Many want or are already participating on forums elsewhere.
This blog is perceived as being essential across the board, offering a perspective and insight not found elsewhere. Everyone wants to see it stay up and operational.
g) Many feel that they are holding themselves back on their own preparation plans. This is a hard one to discern for me and share with you, because the reasons are so varied, but most feel that they could do much, much more. They are not because they are still caught in the present system, do not have enough money, have no help at all, do not have the moral support to encourage them to move ahead, find the entire process overwhelming and difficult to cope with far too often, and some believe that it’s actually futile to do much.
h) Most feel the need for timely, accurate and concise information would help them break their own deadlocks. A single source for this info would be greatly desirable.
i) The need for community, group and organization is also a tough one to describe. Most feel it is too late, too dangerous and too much work. Some expressed this need to have someone “with them” and are open to doing this.
j) Many have gathered the tools, books, experience and supplies they believe that they need that will help them. This was very common, with almost (but not quite) no one not doing anything in the way of physical preparations. Even so, nobody felt that they really had “enough”, since the need to have more supplies, tools and especially experience was seen as being a big concern.
k) Most felt that hard core survival skills were highly desirable skills to have. Most already have some skills in gardening, living rustic lives, basic animal husbandry and other such skills and experience. Most felt that this was not nearly enough.
i) Most feel that no matter what they do, they stand a very limited chance of survival considering what they believe is going to happen. All felt that preparations of varying levels were necessary, most feel that very serious preparation levels were best, but even so, this only offered them a limited chance of survival in the face of how bad it’s going to get.
The reasons for this limited chances of survival was primarily because everyone else, all the “others” were not doing ANYTHING towards their own future survival in the face of collapse. Most feel that the collapse will be quite severe and will create conditions of widespread chaos. Most fear hungry hordes, confiscation, difficulties with neighbors, family and friends and a police state. Most feel that they will not survive this “invasion” because they would be overwhelmed, quickly. Most felt hiding if possible would help them with this, but most also felt that this may not be enough.
l) Not many have found cooperation or support among their neighbors with one notable exception (from those that reported). Michael exemplifies the hard work and conscientious effort to “break ground” with neighbors and build relationships and a modicum of trust.
m) Many wanted to know where the “safe place” will be. All are concerned about population levels. Not all are willing or desiring to move. Some will dig in right where they are, others will depart and go to their chosen spots.
n) Most expressed concern that our nation won’t survive this intact and that the future would be radically different then the present. This was not a question that I’d asked, but quite a few either made comments or references to this.
o) Most are prepared for differing levels of self-defense. Nobody is looking forward to this either.
p) Most believe that they will enacting their preparation plans very soon. This varied a bit, from a few months to less then two years.
q) There was a wide variation on what plans and preparations meant to the respondents.
r) Almost, if not all, feel that there will not be a sudden awaking of the public to their actual plight until it is far too late for them to react with any efficacy at all. Many stated that it would take a huge, massive event to shock “the others” from their somnolent states.
s) Almost forgot — respondents came in from Canada, the USA and England — did I miss anyone? I anticipate more as this and the earlier posts gain some history.
There you have it, a very unscientific “results” of the questions I’d posed. I wasn’t taking a real survey and won’t bother to do so either. But as indicated, there are a LOT of commonalities here, in fact, almost everyone that wrote was on the same page on most of the issues, even issues / questions which I did not bring up on the original blog posts.
There were a few exceptions, such as not needing to prepare at all and staying in the city.
What does the answers above mean? Well, it means what I’ve suspected all along, nothing “new” was uncovered. In other words, the blog remains pretty accurate on how would-be crashstead survivors feel about our situation, our future, our neighbors and their chances. That’s good.
Now for the bad…. can you say toast?
No, it’s not that bad, just hoping to get your attention. The need to find others is very large and ever present as expressed by most, especially in their own family units. Many single people are really concerned about their aloneness, and I agree, I see this as being a huge factor in their chances.
The present magnetic force holding everyone back is the ubiquitous “system” that we are all a part of, and the need to be a part of it as long as possible. Almost everyone is still stuck with the iron filing in their shoes to what it offers, what it limits and what it controls. This isn’t any surprise either, but it does indicate our ongoing dependency, which nobody has resolved.
Again, no surprises there, our need for a new culture cannot be realized as long at this existing culture remains in control. We interface with this at multiple points on a daily basis, even if we are secluded up on our mountaintops. And this creates a dichotomy with our reality and the other reality we’re constantly bumping into.
I have absolutely no answers for this, this is a characteristic I have seen in every group I’ve ever seen. The group (if there is one) can take on its own reality and perceptions, but that changes nothing on the “outside world” and in fact, this creates a point of contention at the interface points. It makes no difference what the interface is — it can be a visit to the local store, the dentist or getting your car registered or a friend comes to visit, but the “rubbing of elbows” with the “unbelievers” creates several things: tension, disagreement, distrust and avoidance. Not always, but often enough.
Who is doing this? I think both groups are doing this, but I don’t know who’s doing this more. And I’m not sure it matters who’s doing it more anyway.
How we / they deal with it is probably more important. Most are dealing with it by staying quiet and keeping their information / opinions to themselves, and thereby blending in as best they can. Others “take the risk” and periodically attempt to present their opinions / arguments or information, almost always with dismal results.
What this means is we are as a group, pretty much failing to convince anyone, even our own family members of our viewpoints, which we further believe to be life-saving and theirs to be life-threatening. For us, it’s very serious, a matter of life or death, for them, it’s a point of amusement, or disbelief or downright anger. Their threatened way of life is the “question at hand” and they do not want to hear about anything that may challenge that perception. And they are quite willing (right now) to “go down with the ship”, adamant to the end that they will never need to.
We believe that they will hold to that that position until they are personally suffering, which we also believe will happen pretty soon as the dominoes of collapse fall faster and harder, eventually hitting them smack dab in the face and knocking them clear off their feet. We even believe that they will die in large numbers because of their intractable positions. They think we are basically nuts for having such views.
This basic disagreement underlies many of our interactions with “them” and they with us, once they actually understand how we feel. Our relationships are actually suffering quite badly in my opinion as a result.
This is all quite serious in truth, because it reveals just how far and how different our world views really are, and how this perception (real or not) is impacting our daily lives and how we experience and even enjoy life.
Wow, that was a mouthful, even for me. But I think this is pretty important. Our feelings of being alone are running pretty deep, exhibited by almost everyone and override a lot of our concerns. How we are able to interact with the “other world” and it’s vast majority of the population is as a result, being limited by our perceptions and theirs. Nothing is being done about this either, and is in fact, worsening as our perceptions become more real to us.
Strangely, even though the daily news is actually reporting some of the truth to our perceptions (a perception in itself), the distancing we’re feeling from our family and friends remains. This is probably true because we ourselves are still “running ahead”, still distancing ourselves as we race to make our own preparations and gather the skills and experience and supplies we need. They’re way, way behind us and not even half-trying to catch up.
The cognitive dissonance is actually worsening despite the news reports now found in the mainstream media. I’m not clear why this is so, possibly because the MSM is still failing to report the whole truth and is often caught lying in their broadcast, such as the theme that “things are going to get better” and that “this is a temporary setback” after reporting something fairly serious and threatening.
Our efforts to counteract this propaganda are truly failing. This is one reason why I’ve seriously questioned the direction and even the content of this blog. The “converted” are already here, already on board and the evidence I have presented remains disbelieved by the majority. The main stream media contacts that have recently come up (there have been three already in the last two weeks or so) have disappeared entirely after I pointed out a few things to them. I find this amazing myself, since I do not write the news nor create it, I’m pointing to sources of the news that should be believed by them because they are main stream sources themselves (not always, but often enough).
Most of us feel that there really is nothing we can do about this. So do I. The effort and energy and cost and time spent to wake them the hell up is exhausting, bankrupting and seemingly futile. So I’d like to point something out — if all of that is true.
Why should we persist with this line of direction? Why keep knocking ourselves out, jeopardizing our marriages, our relationships and even our jobs if they simply won’t hear / read / investigate or take any real interest in their own future?
We do this because we care — we care so much that we are willing to suffer the ridicule, the derision, the arguments, the blacklisting and the ostracization that this creates. They don’t see that — and they don’t care enough either (in my opinion) to even try to see that. They fall back on a very old theme and that is “the world will continue on as it always has”. They say this because they know nothing different.
All we can do — and all many of us actually are doing, is trying to “be there” when they fall, for fall they will, of that, we are absolutely certain. We are certain because we have digested enough information to believe that this is the reality we all face, including ourselves. And this is what is lacking in their arguments or disagreements with our position. They have investigate little or nothing at all. Therefore, one line of attack to correct this dissonance would be to somehow get them to read more.
Perhaps an impossible task and many have reported exactly that. But it’s what I’ve said — education is key. We’re trying to get them to fix themselves, they first have to want to and secondly, they have to have the information available to them to do so.
I don’t think this is news, but spelling it out might help someone here to understand that this is a very common dilemma we are all experiencing.
Ok, where was I? Other then our “continued persistence” with our own levels of awareness, knowledge and preparation, I can only suggest that solid information sources might help others understand our position and activities. This has always been true, but admittedly, we’ve all been very busy trying to take actions to help ourselves and worrying about the ones we care about.
I do not presume to say that we’re going to make any headway at all. There is a very valid argument that say’s, “No, we will not” and I am largely persuaded to this position myself. This is because the information is already out there, everywhere you look if they would just read.
I can’t (seemingly) get anybody to actually read my own food site, I get a ton of very basic questions that are clearly posted in multiple locations that are constantly inquired about. I’m 90% convinced Americans cannot read, do not understand what they do read and can only comprehend about 10% of that. I know that’s harsh, but have you ever worked with the public?
I also admit that I am now, largely as a result of this blog, the food site and the former forum, quite unwilling to beat my head against the proverbial brick wall and try to “fix this” comprehension / reading / awareness / knowledge / “lets get it together” problem. This is because I personally believe that Americans are in very serious trouble regarding several factors, such as:
a) situational awareness — they have no idea what is going on around them and have no interest in it either;
b) comprehension limitations — they are so brainwashed that anything out of the ordinary is completely lost to them;
c) cognitive dissonance — they are quite unable to perceive anything outside of their comfort zone and will continue to vehemently deny their own suffering as long as possible;
d) they actually prefer their own bias, ignorance and laziness, it’s preferable to them because it does not require of them any personal responsibility or accountability;
e) they like their dependency and expect others to take care of them;
f) they find the “need” to be self-reliant, self-responsible or even autonomous to be quite foreign and even distasteful to them, as this represents work, comprehension, understanding, awareness, education, intelligence and probably a good deal of sweat.
Don’t bother telling me that this is a strong indictment, believe me, I held back. I will not put together a forum again for this reason because they turn into “chat-fests” and disagreements all too quickly and very few do all the work. It is my opinion that when most ask for such resources, they themselves will not be contributing. I believe this is true because they are not contributing now.
I ask a lot of people — but in reality, nothing that isn’t common sense. I expect you to be able to read, comprehend and investigate — and take personal responsibility for yourself and your life. If there is something you want — what are you doing about it? This is common sense and a very reasonable expectation. Unfortunately, I believe it is also widely disregarded, exhibited by the actions I see and even the belief systems I’ve witnessed and investigated.
It does not take leadership to exhibit these qualities. It simply takes responsibility, a trait not often taught or practiced. And no wonder, look at what our so-called “education” and daily indoctrination teaches us. The only people held responsible are the victims caught by the system. The politicians, corporations, government, lawyers, the famous, the cops and the rich are almost always not held responsible for the actions (and inactions) and we are actually taught to desire to become like them or even one of them. It’s an insane, upside down world we live in.
So, by long-winded explanation, I won’t be doing a forum or spending my days trying to educate the uneducated. I personally believe it is largely too late for that and apparently, quite a few of you do too for your own reason. Most of you are just quite tired of trying and perhaps have discovered the same things I did. Therefore, this blog will not take on this focus anymore then it already has. What is already here should be sufficient.
Finally on this topic, I also believe that there is a very strong collusion of government and media, deliberately and viciously misinforming the public at large on almost all things. This is also a common belief held by many of you and one of the reasons you even read this blog. Truth is very important, lies and misinformation aren’t.
We are alone — we will largely remain alone. I am not personally persuaded this will ever change. For me, I say “whatever”, I’m moving on already. I’ve got to, since I cannot fix this. I am not convinced you can either, and furthermore if I dare so say, I think those that try are spinning their wheels to their own peril. It’s a reason I don’t vote — it’s too late to think we can fix anything. You’ve heard this before.
Furthermore, it is my opinion that the points I’ve presented in the blog articles, and especially the collapse and future prep series are as accurate as ever. Why this is important is for the reasons I stated earlier, this blog will remain up (if possible) as a “history” of the coming collapse, why it happened, what we felt, what we thought we should do and why we were both alone and disbelieved by everyone else.
Perhaps this point isn’t particularly important, I do not know yet. But as the collapse deepens, there will be those who will “come looking” and perhaps find something here that will help them accelerate their own level of awareness and understanding and thereby, gain some value for themselves. It’s really the best I can hope for, and by the recent responses, what most of you hope for too.
We’re moving on it seems because we all feel like we must. Definitely I say, let’s move on, it’s time, even a bit past time I’d say. This is not an easy road, but change never really is. There is hope and it’s a very simple hope — we are doing the best we can given the situation we find ourselves in, each and everyone of us. We are not alone, there are more of us then it seems, and even though we are badly “outnumbered”, we’re moving ahead as lights in the sky appear with the coming darkness.
We all loathe the thoughts of what the future could really mean, we do not perceive our neighbors as our enemies, just ignorant and unconcerned about their own selves, too dependent and uninterested to change. We fear what this might mean when they come knocking on our doors. We hope they knock — and not just take. Our biggest fear is the unknown, which includes the hungry hordes and the government agents and informants and the police state. Shortages are actually secondary and rightly so.
We all seem to believe something else too — that there are no “set answers”, no canned responses and no pat solutions. Most of us have come to understand that the techno-fix solution is an absolute myth. I say good — because this only increase the dependency and resource destruction and is in fact, part of the problem that caused this collapse in the first place.
There you have it. I’m sure I missed plenty, but my fingers are tired and so am I.
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